Tuesday, April 15, 2008

More reports on Ann Sieg

We have received a bunch of letters coming to the defense of Ann Sieg and accusing this blog of fabricating information about Ann and the Renegade Network Marketer program.

Yet for each letter of defense we get about 15 that either thank us for the candid info or tell us about their own stories about how they were defrauded. Like the following...

OVER $5000 DOWN THE DRAIN
Vern wrote: "After getting involved with Ann Siegs Renegade Network Marketer I spent $3,200 getting a site setup using a web designer through eLance like she suggested. Then I spent another $2,400 in pay per click ads running ads similar to the ones she suggested and using the keywords she gave me plus a few I found on my own. I got a total of 42 leads. 2 sales. Not a single one joined my company. I wish I would have listened to my instinct."

ULTERIOR ENDORSEMENTS
Cam wrote: "After looking at SiteSell.com a program Ann Sieg endorses I'm convinced that she only endorses those things she gets paid on. "

CAN I HAVE MY CHECK PLEASE
Swen wrote: "I sold over 20 Renegade Courses and never got paid. They tell me because I'm not in the USA they cannot send me a check. I would not tell anyone again to buy this course."

GET A DOUBLE REFUND
Paul wrote: "I bought the Renegade and after telling a few people asked for a refund. I just didn't think it was worth the $67. It's like after buying a car - all of the sudden you notice that everyone has that car. She's not saying anything new. Then 3 months after getting my refund she sent me check - I guess one of the people I told bought it. I don't think she was just being nice either - she must have broken software or something. Not that I'm complaining about that!"

And then I was forwarded a copy of a letter Ann Sieg sent to one of our readers...

In this letter Ann makes veiled threats and asks this person retract testimony made regarding a phone conversation where she indicated that she was competing with Leaders Club and other leaders within Leaders Club.

The letter states, "I am demanding that you retract those statements and that you notify Andre Vatke of this retraction. In addition, I insist on documented proof that not only have you notified Andre accordingly, but also documented proof of any additional parties you may have provided this false information to." (see image on right - this is the actual letter - we don't make this stuff up)

The testimony was never retracted and contribution made to this blog never removed. However most marketers would cave from a bully move like this.

In the DRA forums Ann Sieg and her "Associates" say they were never competing with Leaders Club. Leaders Club said they were terminated for violating a private written contract which included a non-compete agreement. The letter clearly states that Ann was competing by offering her own training and coaching program. I'm not going to make a judgment on that one way or another - but the noise made on their part was more than ironic.

8 comments:

Lawrence said...

Interesting blog. I was looking because it had a return policy and figured what the heck.

So did you work with her and what do you recommend in terms of cold market training. I saw you had posted about the adwords book through amazon which I will probably read very soon.

I'm interested to pick you brain

Lawrence

Thomas said...

Thanks for the blog. I always notice her coming up in the paid ad category in Google and I am wondering what is behind it.

Usually when I see a sales letter like hers, I click away straight away. Not sure why but I thought I read hers. Clever writing because I was close of submitting my details. After reading this blog and various other stories on the web I have decided otherwise.

Frank The Bear said...

There must not be must to expose in MLM if you can't even post in this blog more than twice per year.

Andre Vatke said...

Ann Sieg was indeed terminated because she raided her own downline (and crossline) and violated a private non-compete contract with my company - Leaders Club (www.leadersclub.com). Simple as that. It's sad when someone you mentor pulls that kind of trick. But it's water under the bridge now. I'm glad she made the most of it. :) MOVE ON PEOPLE - Leaders Club has!

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Gina Lopina said...

I've read Mike Dillard's Magnetic Sponsoring and Building on a Budget as well as The Renegade Network Marketer by Ann Sieg, including her bonus books. I think it's good information about what not to do when selling MLM products but I did not use Ann's affiliate program. It did seem very expensive. I would rather promote Magnetic Sponsoring and Building on a Budget because you don't have to spend a lot of money.

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